passing legislation to say you shouldn't be ripping kids out of their mommys' arms. >> why does this administration think this policy is good for them? >> i don't know is the short answer, katy. this is not a new problem. this is a problem that we've seen in previous administrations, something that we should have been prepared for. there's alternatives to detention. this is an outcome from a larger problem. we should be working well salvador and nicaragua and honduras addressing some of the root causes in those countries that's causing this migration to come up here. we should be helping them with rule of law and economic development. we should have a border security strategy that is smart, that relies on technology. you've heard me say it a billion times. building a 30-feet-high concrete structure from sea to shining sea won't solve this problem and it won't prevent the problem we're having right now.