president is doing, using these images, these families as a bargaining chip to get what he wants? >> the trump administration hasn't backed down. they are as eli pointed out saying over and over and over again that this is not their desire to do. no one wants to separate parents and families, but they're blaming the democrats. if that's the case, they could pick up the call tomorrow, like lindsey graham said and could have changed the policy. the fact is they're not going to do that. they know this is an issue they want to work on, want to continue. if they didn't, they could change this but it doesn't appear like they have any indication doving that. they'll continue to try to change the narrative and blame narrative and see if it sticks. >> in a few minutes we'll be joined by senators merkley and van hollen, visiting facilities in south texas. different topic we'll switch gears here republicans on the judiciary committee demanded documents related to the fbi's