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as i mentioned the top of the show, on tuesday the president's going to make the journey to capitol hill. he's going to break bread with his republican colleagues during their weekly luncheon. he's going to talk about immigration with them. how is he likely to be received in all of this? >> well, look. i think the foundation of this right here is something that sabrina briefly mentioned. the fact that stephen miller, john kelly, other folks in the white house, jeff sessions, of course, believe that this zero tolerance policy will act as a deterrent and therefore it is a good thing and should stay in place. then again you have the president saying it is bad and it is the democrats' bill. kellyanne saying nobody likes it. is it good or is it bad? it is just as basic as that that they can't seem to get down and bring forward a unified message. that's something that republican senators who i have spoken with both on and off the record have said that they are really frustrated with were this white house. sometimes they don't know where the president stands on certain things. we saw just on friday the

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