e-mail, jacob, that you were citing an article in which the man who will take the podium are was interviewed. 2012 he was put in charge of the tucson office and at that time, the section which included his hometown was the busiest on the border and under his watch which by all accounts was a very strict watch, we could say, drug cartel activity, illegal immigration along the border declined sharply. he has been criticized for what some have described as his previous draconian tactics. is he expected to make an argument that you got to be tough and then look at the results? >> yeah, this is all about deterrence basically. and chief padilla is known for his tenure in the tucson sector that used to have the highest apprehensions and chief padilla once he was there through a mix of the strategies of the border