election. it undermines everything he said about the reason he fired jim comey. everything he said, his administration said about jim comey because of the investigation. >> the problem even going further back is the case itself was nothing. it was written on water. i mean, i keep coming back -- this is my hobby horse. people don't understand that there were two -- >> can i get you a new hobby -- >> two systems at the state department, classified high side and there is an unclassified low side. you cannot send a classified e-mail on the low side and you cannot send a nonclassified e-mail on the high side. so, there was no intentionality about hiding anything. the original sin was her private server which made everything else seem like there was a conspiracy. but, in fact, there was no violation of the law at all. i mean, there was carelessness and even a bit of negligence, but there was no crime and no intentionality. >> frank, i want to get you in on that to respond. but i also want you to take us beyond relitigating e-mails and