>> okay, then ned, before a plea agreement could happen, cohen and his attorneys would meet with the prosecutors. they call that the queen for a day session. what would that look like? >> well, it could be a proper session. the interesting thing about michael cohen is there are circles of criminal activity or potential criminal activity i should say. so of course prosecutors are going to focus on the new york case. but we can assume, we have to assume, they're also going to focus on things like trump tower moscow. they're going to focus on this plan for ukraine that he presented in early 2017. michael cohen, as kim just said, holdings the keys to the kingdom of donald trump's personal life but there's a lot to suggest he has a lot more. he has a lot more that can incriminate this presidency. it seems like that's what donald