this is an incredible story. and you found these gentlemen who've been doing this incredibly weird thing. but wow, what a weird new window. >> it's what a few people said to me is kind of like a metaphor for the whole presidency. he's -- donald trump doesn't have a lot of preservational instincts, a lot of sense of history. and might not even have known that there were many people who have pride in their work who were tasked with this menial duty in order to clean up after him. >> known or cared. yeah. annie karni, politico's white house reporter. again, congratulations. thanks for being here tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> it's election night tonight. and we might have an upset in the making. that's next. i can't even make myself throw this this stuff on the ground as a joke. like it would be too much of a mess.