if you remember under the last regime, the last dictator, kim jong-un's father, about 2 million people died in famine in that country. >> yes. >> and there was, there was serious unrest in the coury and they may have lost the tire system had there not been some food aid that came in. had the situation on the ground not changed and the famine got significantly better. so, i think kim jong-un does have to engage with the world to try and sew his people that he has some interest in their economic prosperity in mind, but he can tell his generals that the only way he got to this point in which the world takes him seriously and gives him some concession and recognitions was after he made this rush toward the missile program, the inter-continental ballistic missile program and militarizing