don't have war anymore. even americans might say why do we have our troops in south korea, didn't we end the war, let's bring the boys home. that really just undercuts the rationale for our troop presence. >> that's the giveaway, isn't it? if they push in that direction in the first couple hours that's what he's pushing for. >> that's what he's saying by saying we need regime security. >> and the japanese are very scared of that. >> another one of our veteran analysts has joined us, that's jeremy bash, former chief of staff at cia, former chief of staff at pentagon. so his bona fides are clear and on point for this conversation. jeremy, if you've been listening to the conversation, then you know several people have made the point that this is before the first hand shaikh, before the first photograph of the two together victory north korea. >> a summit is not an accomplishment for the american president, brian. it is a major accomplishment for kim jong un. in fact, the spectacle of seeing the american flags along with the dprk flags as the backdrop for that handshake is really jarring actually to see, to