together here. rudy giuliani is on tv wherever he can find a camera trying to do what you are describing, muddying the waters. >> but now you hear donald trump's voice coming directly from giuliani. that wasn't exactly what was happening when he started. when giuliani said it will take me time to get up to speed, what's happened is now we hear the voice of donald trump literally coming from rudy giuliani's mouth and that was i think particularly when we saw him talk about melania. >> no. that was incredible. and stormy daniels. >> and stormy daniels. >> disgusting comments. >> dan, your new book is lincoln's last trial, it offers a first hand account of his skill as a litigator through hand-written transcripts detailing a landmark self-defense case argued in the summer of 1859, just two years before he would become america's 16th president. tell us about it. >> we have the only transcript that exists of any trial lincoln's ever done and it was only found in 1989 in a box in