in washington, couldn't get him here, jonathan swan political reporter for axios. let me start with you, paul butler. the idea that bob mueller who years, his term was extended worked for democrats and fbi directors do, would be leading a team trying to frame the prt of the united states. that seems to be outlandish even in tse outlandish times. >> yeah, and if you're political, for the record, he's a republican as is his boss rod rosenstein. so what this is about is attacking the prosecution i guess because they feel like they don't have another defense. and seally their defense is this extraordinahat nothing the president could do would constitute obstruction of justice, and that he has the ability to pardon himself. so, they're trying to poison the well. it's really the tv lyer, rudy gi is doing job, but e scary thing is it's working