don't talk to me, you'll get fired with your own allegation. all thespeople had been lking to mueller before he was indicted, they're going to be nervous. imagine being this person. manafort has been indicted the day before. his business partner rick gates has just agreed to plead guilty you. get a call from paul manafort trying to sunshine born mergery. you immediately are going to do nothing but pick up the phone and have your lawyer call the special counsel to make sure if he was listening to that conversation that you get right with him right away so there is no chance that you get charged. >> go ahead. >> there is also an overlooked part of this, which is that paul manafort was actually still communicating with his longtime politic russian ukrainian friend continue assistant teen kilimnik. he was identified as somne with ongoing ties russian intelligence. not only was paul manafort trying to tamper with witnesses and influence their testimony, he was using this, you know, long-time associate of his who he should be trying to distance