republicans in congress stay on our side, that's the only real defense they have at this point. >> rich? >> i think the core contention in that memo is correct. i don't believe the president can comm obstruction of justice and exercise his lawful powers. he can abuse the lawful powers and that's the subject for an impeachment and not a criminal investigation and i think it's a proversion or constitutional system that you have an interior officer in the executive branch who wants to question the president of the united states on his state of mind. i'm not sure we've ever encountered that before and it's right to resist it for the personal interests and the good of the institution. >> look, i know the first thing i thought of when i heard this, peggy, was for nixon. for the viewers, let me play the infamous excerpt from frost nixon. >> so what, in a sense, you're saying there are certain situations, where the president