trump's done. despite the fact he's repeatedly criticized past president for their pardoning. >>. >> he talks about the fairness factor. a wrong has been done and the president wants to correct it. i wonder if it's thinking about how can he correct wrongs done to him if that enters into the process. >> i'm not sure there's mastermind thing going on here. i think in some ways he can talk about unfairness, especially with rob blagojevich and martha institute wa stewart. >> they she had a spinoff. >> there's some relationship where he kind of knows their story. he also knows you meng these two people, rob blagojevich we covered exhaustively and martha stewart who was definitely covered exhaustively. >> she was all over the news. >> she went to jail. he knows that's catnip for everybody as well. he's like i have this power, i can dangle these things in front