this happened during nicolle wallace's broadcast today. the fbi veteran frank figliuzzi was talking about the net effect and the takeaway from today's pardon talk. we'll watch it together. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> we have an almost masterful strategy being executed by the president. he is picking out the crimes and the people and the prosecutors and saying, you have no power over me. we're talking about pat fitzgerald, who was the special counsel in the scooter libby/valerie plame case. he prosecuted blagojevich when he was u.s. attorney chicago. he's saying people who were appointed by comey, special counsel, no power over me at all. >> jonathan, i'm getting in your reading, he has it about right. we've put together a graphic that shows all these tangential -- not so tangential direct connections between these cases. i looked out of deference for a rugby term to explain this, but sadly i fall back on baseball and say this touches all the