difficult position to thread between trying to keep the president at bay and protecting the mueller investigation. the good news for sessions is by recusing himself he was able to go off and i think was in bulgaria last week on some trip. >> wash my hands of that. >> all right. want to get heidi przybilla in here. so i'm going to give heidi the task of explaining what rudy giuliani said. >> good luck. >> president trump's lawyer, rudy giuliani, commented on the state of preparations for a potential interview between president trump and robert mueller. nbc's kelly o'donnell tweeted giuliani says he has done both in person and by phone sessions with the president, he says he has doing the q&a to educate me and he says i wants to mow what i can say that is privilegend and what i can say that isn't privileged. 11 days ago giuliani told reporters that mueller had said