they wouldn't. i don't believe they are going to agree to limit it to two things, but also in giuliani's statement, he actually basically admitted that there is a good case for obstruction. he said, oh, i'm fine with collusion because there's no collusion. but obstruction, that's a matter of interpretation. and it isn't. facts are a funny thing. the truth and the facts will come out and i don't think it's going to show that it's a matter of interpretation but of guilt. there is enough evidence that has become public, and that's without what mueller knows that none of us knows, that could show that there is a really strong case for obstruction. >> and, jill, will that include this "the new york times" story tonight? we talked to mike schmidt about it, that trump says to his attorney general, can you unrecuse yourself, please, and get involved in this russia thing? >> that's just one more example of the obstruction. there are so many incidents of