>> lot to talk about there and let's do that. peter baker chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" back with us tonight. also back with us jill wine-banks assistant and former watergate counsel. watching that kind of slap jawed, if they have mueller limited to two categories, the questions for them, collusion and obstruction, that's like saying you've got a tornado to agree to death and destruction only. what does that mean? >> well, i think you were right when you said in the beginning that this has all come down to a lot of p.r., and you have an unanswered accusations from giuliani that mueller cannot and must not answer because he's acting appropriately. so, giuliani can say whatever he wants. and then he can say, and see how unfair it was? they didn't want to agree to that. they said they would and then