testimony this week. i think he was pretty bummed that the summit, at least for now, has been called off. so pompeo and bolton are shaping up as the two poles on diplomacy. >> courtney kube, it's usually the national security saying everybody calming down, and the secretary of defense is rattling the saber. and the dependents in south korea have gotten in. the military men, the civilians, they've got to be on edge. >> yes, you would be surprised. when you talk to them, all of them kind of act like, this is just steady state, this is where we've been. and we forget, it's a confusing time right now. nobody knows if the summit is going to happen, and if it doesn't happen, what's the next step? but look back to a year ago or even a little bit more than a year ago, april of 2017, up until about september of 2017, when there were people who are very openly talking about how conflict with north korea was inevitable. it seems like the tensions are down from there. and i would say, you know, i was last in korea about six months