days, and now you're seeing democrats being able to steer this thing back. >> that's sort of exactly the point. it was that memo gate that nunes said was going to be the biggest thing ever. it turned out to be, and i steal this word from republicans, a nothing burger. so this massive meeting that the president called for, let's see how it turns out. my panel, eli stockle, he covers the white house for the "l.a. times." michael isinkoff, author of "russian roulette." and my friend, a columnist for the daily news. mr. stokel, two briefings, more people in the room. that's good for reporters for you and me, better chance of leaking. who is this a positive for, democrats? >> certainly the fact they're having two meetings does give democrats the opportunity to question whether or not this is really on the up and up, and the white house is really playing into that, saying first that john kelly won't be attending the meeting, then sending him