specific investigations. even if it didn't have to be the president, right? in terms of my understanding of the protocol, if barack obama were to summon the head of the fbi and the attorney general of the white house to talk about the robert menendez, bob menendez investigation, democratic senator, that would be viewed as highly unusual, correct? >> yeah. so there are protocols in the justice department. while the justice department is part of the executive branch, the president exerts his authority over it usually on big policy questions, you know, on immigration, on our policy for charging all sorts of suspects, getting involved in individual investigations is sort of frowned upon. if he thought there was great fraud or waste and abuse at the justice department, sure, i guess you would want the president to get involved. but when it touches him, that makes it pretty unique. and others would point out, look, there isn't quite the evidence to back up the charge that he is making, at least not yet about this informant. he is saying, well, this guy was embedded in my campaign and spied on my campaign. we don't quite see the evidence