and that is because they know if women have the truth about our options, we've seen them looking for ways to lie and deceive women every which way we can. we've seen the scorched earth approach not only in wendy and my home state of texas, but under vice president pence in indiana. not only did teen pregnancy go up, but hiv rates went up and maternal outcomes went down. so no price is too high for these people to pay in their quest to end legal abortion and control women's lives. >> it's very educational, hon t honest honestly, listening to both of you. i think people who might sdwr disagree about some aspects of this issue would hear things that would give you pause to this kind of federal reconstruction, which is one of the most important stories