said during a meeting in january 2017 with mrs. trump, and her husband, jared kushner who is also a senior adviser to the president, the couple offered her a deal for her organization. stop providing abortions in exchange for receiving an increase in federal money. mr. trump acknowledged a few weeks later that he had pushed for such an agreement. so this isn't to matt's point, i hear him, maybe they haven't thought this through, the unintended consequences, they seem to have thought through the request. >> certainly. i recently interviewed cecilia for my show and she talked about the meeting and extrapolated on what that was like to meet ivanka and jared in the beginning where there was a moment we thought they would be a moderating influence on this administration. that wasn't born out true. but essentially what she said was kushner was trying to make a deal without understanding the underlying policy and how it would impact women. she felt like she wanted to explain exactly what plannplanne ened