>> i think the piece of the new report is the timing where it's ongoing through the convention where the trump campaign watered down the platform to be weak on russia and then the democratic convention where trump encouraged the russians to hack hillary clinton's e-mails and make them public. what evidence do you have or have you been able to uncover whether michael cohen was completely freelancing or whether he had had conversations with the then candidate about this development through the summer? >> there are contradictions between what cohen said and what sater said. sater said trump was being briefed through the election. this isn't that complicate add story and one that is in keeping with everything we know about donald trump. he's trying to get a deal done, he's going out of his way not to offend his partner in the deal. it also explains, i think, in a way the deal then falls apart, trump has been surprisingly willing to confront russia over the last several months, people