don't, under the rules, have the power to charge him. that is an actually stunning, aka super trag thing -- >> for reals. >> -- to state as your public defense. it's not we're innocent. it's that even if we're guilty, there's a footnote in the doj from 20 years ago that says you can't charge us. >> there are two responses to that. one, criminal defense attorneys will try to argue whatever they can. what works best for their client. and, two, trump is playing to his base and he doesn't appear to be concerned that that type of defense will impact upon his base of support. >> i have a response to your response which is i don't care what the political strategy to his base is. i'm making a point how disturbing it is if that's the stated public position of the president of the united states. >> i would like to say that i care about everything you have to say. so you're always welcome to join me. you might not want to join sassy pants or -- on his show. >> everybody's welcome. >> i'm going to wrap this segment, inspired by flo rida