oligarch, air ras aglab rove was really pushing this meeting when his employees said it might be a bad idea. he wanted it to happen. he's close to putin. he tried to broker a meeting. so the question is why? why is this oligarch close to putin pushing this relationship with donald trump? intelligence sources have a couple of theories. one of them is that this could have been a dangle, russian intelligence trying to figure out how the trump team would react to this. this could be an attempt to plant kompromat. if mike and his colleagues hadn't exposed this meeting, the russians would know these secrets and no one else. they would have that over the trump administration that don junior had gone to a foreign government looking for dirt on his opponent. that's the way intelligence officials look at what could have been going on here, chris. >> why didn't they give dirt to the trump people and manafort and the other guys?