>> uh-huh. in that axios sneak peek tonight we were talking about earlier, jonathan swan asked some of what he calls the white house's most prolific leakers and he asked them what motivates them to do it. one of senior officials told him that they usually come after someone loses an internal decision and they want to jen up some public blow back. you have to realize that working here is like being in a never ending mexican standoff. everyone has leaks, pointed at each ooh it's only a matter of time before someone shoots. there is rarely a peaceful conclusion so you might as well shoot first. to cover my tracks, i usually pay attention to other staffer's idioms and that throws it off me. shawna? >> you don't want to get blamed for something. >> for sure. but you remember, you covered the obama administration as well. we talk about how this white