especially when they pushed back so much on that "new york times" report and didn't say anything about the berating, didn't make any apologies for that. it seems like they are kind of giving that play to the white house, taking a fall here so she can keep her job. >> jordan, while i have you i want you to comment on the john kelly story. very rarely giving interviews. he had to walk back some of his comments when he said the president was distracted rather than embarrassed by special counsel bob mueller's russia probe. why do you think that john kelly felt the need to go back and clarify his remarks here? >> well, as julia pointed out, john kelly's relationship with president trump right now is on the rocks. they have a contentious relationship. the president has been chafing at some of the controls that the chief of staff has tried to impose at the white house haskelly has chafed at some of the president's personal style so naturally in that environment he's going to be concerned that