president who offers to apologies ever. might that have been part of a playbook, when you go in there, don't apologize, just own what you did? why wouldn't she apologize to this when clearly the country is behind not using these enhanced interrogation techniques in torturing prisoners? >> we still have a school saying they are for this. look at former vice president cheney saying he wants them teed up ready to go again, if necessary. i think she was told you're going to open a tremendous can of worms again legally to cia colleagues who have engaged in this ask ynd you need to be car about your answers. this is a time in our society that requires straight-up, honest answers. she did not give those answers. >> what about the cia which in many ways has been waging a pr campaign to get haspel confirmed. you worked for the cia, how