american value and they don't accept this. me, i accepted it for 11 years -- >> we couldn't accept it. >> i said you see my mug shot, my mug shot, i used it for the cover of my cd. >> but you know, you -- you know i came out of the civil rights moment and still, the civil rights issue of today is criminal justice. how do you see the movement today and what role are you going to play in it? >> i'm playing a role of reafin back out and helping the people. when i was in my position, i seen people standing in the rain, people like yourself flying in to use the voice to help me get justice, protesters waiting outside the courthouse, young kids waiting outside the prison when i got released. i feel like i owe my debt to society. i know firsthand this is real, not a gimmick, not nothing i'm trying to attach my name to. i feel i owe to society when they gave to me when i was in this position, even some of the inmates, i sat there with them. these guys lot life sentences