what a nice time to bring back our panelists, peter baker, jackie calmes, and matthew nussbaum. matthew, you covered him. and before i ask you about him, let's take a look at the kim jong-un-style cabinet meeting from december where pence spoke as they went around the table. >> thank you for seeing through the course of this year an agenda that truly is restoing this country. you've spurred an optimism in this country that's setting records. i'm deeply humbled as your vice president to be able to be here. i want to thank you for speaking on behalf of and fighting every day for the forgotten men and women of america. >> matthew, a number of people come away saying he is not of this world. question to you is who is mike pence in your view? >> well, it's really hard to say. i mean the obsequiousness and