make that admission but torture does remain a flash point here, these enhanced interrogation techniques. let's remember, president trump while on the campaign trail talked about how he felt like it would work, that some tactics like waterboarding wouldn't go far enough and told stories about how in the past -- acts of alleged terror or alleged torture to terror suspects, to war prisoners and he advocated the united states get back to that. now after taking office he says in conversation with defense secretary mattis he rised that perhaps that didn't work and he softened his stance but yesterday in the white house briefing, white house press secretary sarah sanders was asked if the president still believed that enhanced interrogation techniques were effective and needed and she didn't really answer. >> i know what the answer is. >> she sort of suggested she hadn't brought it up with him but as we know as close watchers of the sarah sanders daily press briefing, that's her go to when she doesn't want to answer