i believe that after judge ellis' remarks last night, yesterday, rather, on friday, there's no question that the amount of government misconduct is accumulating. i happen to believe it's greater than anybody realizes. very embarrassing to my former justice department. >> erin brought it up, but betsy, the reaction has been what to giuliani essentially echoing the president's criticism of the justice department as well as the fbi? >> well, let's remember giuliani actually went further than the president has gone. he suggested rosenstein needs to close down the mueller probe. that's pretty extraordinary. giuliani made the same assertion on judge janine's show on fox news last night, saying he thinks it's time for the special counsel's investigation to be shut down. that in and of itself is probably not getting as much play as it warrants. that's an extraordinary thing for an attorney to say. it's also extraordinary for giuliani to say he's seen embarrassing and mounting evidence of misconduct. thus far there haven't been any judges who have actually accused