primaries. and the associated press says the candidates are jockeying to be the most conservative, the most anti-washington and the most loyal to the president. with the effect of pulling the party to the right, leaving some leaders worried their candidates will be out of step with the broader electorate in november. do you hold that concern? >> yeah, i think that is fair. if you look at the elections in my home state of virginia, it was a blue tidal wave nobody saw coming. and ed gillespie went very conservative trying to appeal to the trump voters. and it did not work out well for him. so i think that the fears on the republican side are grounded, but there is a big to the right or a push to the trump voter, which is really not the right or the left. it's a different kind of voter. and that is what the gop is grappling with. >> to that end, kristin, msnbc news has the new story on the