it used to be that the membership of the nra was bipartisan and, you know, unified ideologically by guns, but that's not really the case anymore. certainly some members of the nra are democrats, but at the leadership level, at the events you go to when you go to the conservative political action committee and, you know, the nra folks are there, this is a group that is entirely republican at this point and has merged, you know, as was being said a minute ago, has essentially merged as a piece of the culture war. >> by the way, speaking of democrats in the nra -- i guarantee jon tester has shot more guns in his life than trump has shot off his mouth. >> we mentioned joe manchin earlier. it was joe manchin in a campaign ad who shot a copy of the cap and trade bill. president obama. i think he might still go for that nra seal of approval. jonathan, mike, you're sticking with us. coming up, if you believe the president and his chief of staff, things are going great between them.