without the president coming to her aide or giuliani coming to her aid. >> that's everyone who works in this administration. >> and choose to do it on a daily basis. no one is forcing them to do those jobs. we're hearing all this from giuliani. he says he couldn't be -- yet nothing from john mcgahn, nothing from emmitt flood, nothing from sekulow. is it that rudy's the new face guy and those guys are doing the work? >> i think this was, you know, concocted by the president and rudy giuliani sitting together and making a decision to go out and let him make this statement. i think it was a disaster. i mean this whole idea, stephanie, that they were -- that this payment was made in order to deal with personal problems, family problems, because if it got melania