directing his legal team, you're telling me you would advise him not to sit for an interview with robert mueller? >> that's correct. >> and then what would happen? i mean, in the case of bill clinton if i'm not mistaken, his testimony in that deposition in the paula jones was ultimately competented. your client bill clinton declined to voluntarily sit and then he was subpoenaed. is that right? >>, that's not right. he was subpoenaed in another proceeding. president of the united states though has a hard time to refuse, but i think in this case, president trump should because many of the underlying charges that mr. mueller is looking at could be difficult to prove. but if he lies to mueller, if he disassembles, one of the easiest charges for a prosecutor to make is false statement. so i think that is the enormous risk to the president if he sits