he's interested in what -- or when flynn had to leave, he was very interested in the pressure that he put on james comey not to investigate flynn. but these four areas that you just laid out there seem to be areas where mueller has collected the most evidence and is likely to touch on those areas. but i will point out it could be possible that in some of those areas, he's found exculpatory evidence. as a lot of your legal experts on this show will tell you, intent is the thing that drives an obstruction probe. so if he can show not just -- he would need to show not just that the president was involved in these things but that he intended to take these acts in order to obstruct this probe. and so without that intention, he could have found exculpatory evidence. we just know that these are the areas where he has findings, and we need to see, as this time line moves forward quickly, where he actually takes us in the end. >> and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we're so happy to have julia ainsley on our team. jeremy bash, let me ask you a question you may have dealt with