possible collusion. >> david corn, you were working on this before it was a story, before anybody knew it was a thing. you are one of the original journalist who is uncovered the connection between russia and the trump campaign. what harry just said, the mess of russian money, what's the distance between there being a mess of russian money and possibly some real intent on the part of putin cronies and oligarchs to influence the outcome of the election and a connection to the trump campaign? >> okay, we know there was an attack. i don't like to use the word meddling or intervention. we know there was a russian attack on the campaign, right? that's -- that's clear. we also know that the intelligence community said it was done in part to help trump. so the fact -- and we also know that trump has relationships with oligarchs and we also know that putin uses oligarchs to do his will around the world. so, it is not a far stretch of the imagination that oligarchs