what now is the national counterterrorism center, the main entity in our intelligence community that analyzes threats from terrorist organizations. the brennans of the world, the sally yates of the world, career professionals defending our country are really expressing grave concern because what they see the president doing is not only seemingly utilizing those agencies to defend himself, but fundamentally undermining those institutions which defend us. this reaches back all the way from his very first day in office when he went to the cia, stood in front of the memorial wall that showcases the lives and heroism of those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country and basically talked about how many times he had been on the cover the of time magazine. i think that set the tone for this presidency. it's been nonstop for the last 16 months. >> and, steve schmidt, like many things with the president, like the constant contacts we know about with the russians, donald trump doesn't hide things in a safe or in a closet or under the bed. he hides in plain sight.