watch cable news. when the president launches a -- what sounds like and looks like to the markets a trade war, even fox news watches the market tumble. larry kudlow went out and spoke to our own kristen welker and tried to clean up the president's remarks on that. let's watch and talk about it. >> is it possible that these stiff new tariffs against china are, in fact, a negotiating tactic and won't go into effect? >> yes, it's possible. it's part of the process. i mean, i would take the president seriously on this tariff issue. you know. there are carrots and sticks in life. but he is ultimately a free trader. he said that to me, he said it publicly. so he wants to solve this with the least amount of pain. >> peter baker, i'm sure someone on twitter will fact check me but i have never heard donald trump say "i am a free trader," have you? >> well, he says from time to