on the whole question of the wall, the federal troops going down there now. i don't know what soldiers do with rifles. it's not about shooting guys. no american will go along with that. what are we talking about troops on the boarder? what's it mean. >> this is the reality. the national guard if they're being directed by the federal government they cannot do anything. it's a waste of time sunday the law. >> this is the law. it's a waste of money. the reality of the matter is that the president is upset because he's not getting money for wall first and foremost. mexico is not going to pay for it. the americans will pay for it if there's a ever a wall. a majority of americans don't want the wall. he's doing this for pure optics and wants to play to the base. this is the truth. >> his people want the wall. >> i just want the democrats to acknowledge his basin includes a lot of democrats in states like pennsylvania, michigan, ohio and wisconsin. do we agree we that he. >> i think he's going to use that in 2020 if he runs again. >> that's who won the election. you can't say that's not part of