whiskey distillery, some of us won't feel any part of the 1% and some of us will only feel it as consumers, but american producers are going to feel much more than a 1% hit. >> i look at this, and you have to forgive the texan in me, it's like the old folks' definition of minor surgery, when it is on you. minor tariffs is when it is on somebody else. listen, our farmers always bear the brunt of these tariff wars. again, i don't quarrel with the trump administration saying china, we want you to play by the rules. >> right. >> but the reason most administrations have avoided these tariffs is because they're going to be real consequences. they'll felt by farmers, small businesses, manufacturers, suppliers and workers, whether building boeing airplanes or growing grapes for wine. the impact then is going to be real. what also frustrates me is there's no discussion about the reality that trade isn't a sum