>> this week, the u.s. expelled 60 top russian diplomats, punishment for the kremlin's alleged poisoning of a former russian spy and his daughter in england. some senior trump administration officials are pressing for more action, including additional sanctions, as the special counsel's probe into contact between russia and trump and his aides continue to hang over the white house. >> did you ever discuss pardons? >> joining me now is republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin. he is chairman of the senate homeland security committee. he's fresh off of a visit to asia. senator johnson, welcome back to "meet the press." >> happy easter. >> happy easter to you, as well. let me start with the state of u.s./russia relations. on one hand, you can look at it and say, my god, this looks worse than the cold war. on the other hand, if you look on rhetoric with president trump, he gets criticized because it seems like he has nothing negative to say about russia. where do you characterize this?