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privatizing more of the va, and there are two distinct opinions about that. what's your take on that? >> well, i think that's -- that was the major reason secretary shulkin got canned. he had a boneheaded incident with the travel thing but i think he was fighting with political appointees in his own agent. i must admit there is an argument that the va, which is an absolutely national treasure to the veterans -- once you're in it, in the system, they're just terrific docs, medical care is first rate. we spend a ton of money supporting our veterans. the most generous nation on the face of the earth to our veterans. but the va's got endemic problems. they've had a lot of problems with institutional lack of integrity. not telling the boss the truth. they just can't seem to organize themselves. there is a solid argument to have every veteran have a credit card with a chip in it that says, here's the care he's authorized, and let the veteran

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