extensive verification procedures on the ground, anywhere, be any time, any place type stuff. >> let me just ask you about the risks here. if he goes in with great expectations and it is way too complicated to have real results in the first meeting, what's the downside if he comes away and kim jong-un disappointed? >> downside you face in any decision you make in politician is wanting to always be able to exceed expectations. that's how you do well in politics. that's how some of the people i worked for, frankly, were so successful. everybody totally underestimated ronald reagan. but he exceeded expectation. but you don't want to fail to meet expectations. >> what about what you have here? >> if you fail here, you need to know, be prepared, what your next step is going to be. everybody knows the cataclysmic