him to engage this, hopes it's going to go away. but i don't think it's going away. this is not just about the alleged affair. this is about whether there was a violation that occurred when the payment was made by michael cohen to stormy daniels and the stormy daniels camp by the way, michael avenatti, has shown a really -- a real knack for keeping this in the news for almost being very trump-ish in his conduct here. >> yeah, that's what's really interesting about this, isn't it? i mean donald trump, who is the master of using the media, he tweets when he wants to divert attention being so quiet and yet you have michael avenatti, you could make the argument, i mean because what we're learning is that this whole decision on whether or not this violated any campaign finance laws could take a year or longer. >> right. >> that's not going to stay in the news, you know, piece by piece by piece, but he has done an incredible job and you could argue that that's a victory for him and his client just by keeping it top of mind for