machine in his world view of thing. >> if your machine is like the chaos machine? >> yes. if it's the chaos machine. i'm doing good chaos right now so this is all working for me, that's what that's all about. having ruddy come out and say what he says that's the trump whisper. that has been approved by trump otherwise he wouldn't be out saying that. this is laying down the tracks for what will come, and we all know what will come, shulkin is going to go, let's start the clock counting down now. they're trying to figure out what to do with carson and there's others out there as well. you have the president's team coming into shape the way the president wants it. that's fine nobody's begrudging that. just go ahead and pull the trigger and move on. >> can i play devil's advocate for a second, let's say david shulkin is going to go, let's