president be in if they're effective at proving that? >> well, i think the person who is likely to be in the most legal jeopardy here, possible criminal jeopardy, would be his lawyer, mr. cohen, who is the one who made the payment and, you know, claimed he did it out of his own pocket, but then claimed something about a home finance loan. we don't know, first of all, the source of that money. we don't know whether that was disclosed as a campaign contribution. if it wasn't, you know, that could be a possible criminal charge against mr. cohen. to put that on the president, you would have to show that the president knew about it and didn't disclose it. we're not there yet. certainly i'm not saying that couldn't happen, but we're not there yet obviously. >> and i want to play a little bit more of karen mcdougal's sound last night. this is ms. mcdougal apologizing to the first lady. take a listen.