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it's obviously weighing very heavily on the morale of a lot of the staffers. and the journalists, we could use one of those martinis, frankly. >> i was waiting for somebody to say that. the amen chorus now. robert, you've seen a side of donald trump that i think a lot of members of the public, even the staff hasn't seen, a kind of private side, the leisure side of this guy. the side everyone says he misses about life, trump tower in -- tower. he didn't have a crippling schedule or a chief of staff. are we to believe he may be the first president in modern history to go without it with a gate keeper, work flow supervisor, chief of staff in the west wing? >> it's unusual, but it's also not. you look back in history, president carter wanted to have more of a flat operation, people that he could trust inside of the white house.

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